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Bernadine Dorhn, Tony Rezko Traded For Anti-Semite To Be Named Later



Perhaps the most silky-smooth response to being caught in a flagrant lie that you're likely to see this political season, though who knows? The G.O.P. has certainly been upping the ante almost daily in that regard for the last 8 years.

Also, note the CNN crawl: "ATTACKING OBAMA - McCAIN'S NEW GAMBIT". As if it's something he just now thought up, instead of being basically all he's being doing since the DNC.

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roseyv
Oct. 31st, 2008 12:02 am (UTC)
I just saw that elsewhere and the comments were all like, "wait, what? seriously -- who is he talking about?"

There was some speculation, but honestly nobody had a freaking clue.
ludickid
Oct. 31st, 2008 12:05 am (UTC)
That's the thing, thought -- he wasn't talking about anyone. He just said it, and now, immediately, you start thinking "Wait, who does he mean?" and coming up with possible candidates, which means you're (a) doing his work for him and (b) allowing him total deniability if anyone suggests a specific person. It's one of the nastiest tricks in the book, and if that broadcaster had stones, he'd have called him a scumbag to his face.
roseyv
Oct. 31st, 2008 12:12 am (UTC)
See, I kind of had the sense that he was like, "Look, you know I'm not allowed to talk about ____," like he was actually trying to make some kind of point about something, or at least intimate something, but it just fell about a parsec short of the mark.
ludickid
Oct. 31st, 2008 12:42 am (UTC)
Only because I am reminded of it, I give you Myles na gCopaleen, who pegged the type a good 65 years ago:

There is one other awful man I feel it is my duty to describe; I mean the one who is mortally curious to know 'how is it done?' This monstrous clown never looks at you when he is talking and never mentions names; he is very wealthy. He says:

'I went out to Leopardstown on the bike on Saturday. Lost a packet, of course...'

You shrivel slightly at the humility of going to a race meeting on a bike in order to lose the price of fifty taxis. You know this man is insane and cravely away what you know is coming. He continues:

'Who do you think I seen there?'

'Who?'

'Our friend.'

'Our friend? Who?'

'A certain particular party that you know and that I know.'

What makes you choke with rage here is the realisation that you know perfectly well whom he is talking about and thus that you are yourself embroiled in his paranoia. The voice goes on:

'On the inside, of course, chatting jockeys and owners, getting the card marked all over the show. And the big heifer of a wife standing about in the fur coat. Know what I'm going to tell you?'

'What?'

'That man put fifty notes on a thing that was rode be a certain jockey that wouldn't be third home if he was on a V2. But did that take a feather out of our friend...?'

Charnel-house chuckles follow, hinting that no feathers were taken out of this speculator. Your tormentor goes on:

'Back in town at half six. I feel like an egg and a bit of toast and I walk into the counter of a certain place that you know and that I know. Who do I see there with two dames?'

'Our friend?' (O wretched man! You have
answered the fiend, and correctly!)

'Sitting up there as large as life. Bowl of soup first, of course, but not without a drop of madeira in it. Know what he fancies next?'

The monster has produced a penknife and goes through the wrist motions associated with the opening of oyster shells.

'A dozen each for all hands. Know what they had next?'

You would dearly love to say something outrageously exaggerated, like 'roast peacock's breast' but you lack the courage to stand up to this torturer. You say:

'No. What?'

'A whole turkey between the three. They were working away there for two hours chattin' the heads off each other, with all classes of liqueurs being fired back thirteen to the dozen,
and a taxi ticking away outside...!'

There is a pause here. The fiend is getting ready for the finale, you can nearly hear him flexing his madhouse nerves. When the voice comes again, it is changed and earnest:

'Now to my certain knowledge, that man is in a certain department of a certain store and he is paid the munificent subvention of three pounds fifteen per week.
Three pound fifteen shillings per week!'

You know the sad watery eyes are looking vacantly upwards in mute puzzledom. You know that he is now about to enunciate his supreme interrogatory formula. You dread the impact of the end of this inevitable predestined 'conversation'. But you are powerless. The voice says:

'What I want to know is this...'

Yes, there is a pause here. You knew there would be. Then:

'
How is it done?'

You are a bit dazed. You notice his fingers go through the motions of pressing the keys of cash registers. You have received a pat on the back -- this ogre's only form of farewell -- and he is gone.

And you are lucky to be alive, so you are.


Edited at 2008-10-31 12:43 am (UTC)
roseyv
Oct. 31st, 2008 12:05 am (UTC)
Great Information About Anti-Semitism, Everyone!
Also, do you think maybe he was being a leeeetle bit sarcastic when he said "thanks, this has been a good conversation?"
ludickid
Oct. 31st, 2008 12:07 am (UTC)
Re: Great Information About Anti-Semitism, Everyone!
Oh, no doubt about it. Clearly, that guy thought Goldfarb was a dick, but you can never just say, 'man, you're a dick' on TV news.

"And join us next hour when Tucker Bounds mentions the growing Obama death toll and spends the rest of the interview whistling and looking at random spots on the ceiling."
secondperiod
Oct. 31st, 2008 12:48 am (UTC)
This has nothing to do with anything you wrote about, but

http://ffm713.skyrock.com/

Damn! It's every Pen & Pixel album cover EVER!

Including my favorite, Kingdom's I Reign Omnipotent.

Awesome.
bassman42
Oct. 31st, 2008 12:55 am (UTC)
This is just one of many reasons I've been wanting to blow up my TV recently. The GOP is strident, angry and WRONG. 1) Liberalism, GOP opinion aside, is not Communism, Satanism or voodoo, it's a different way of looking at and practicing Democracy. I was taught that liberals and conservatives are headed for the same place politically, just taking different paths to get there. 2) Being in a room with a serial killer doesn't make you a serial killer, any more than being in a room with an anti-Semite makes you an anti-Semite.3) I have no idea who he's talking about and don't care (if there is in fact such a person, which apparently is doubtful). See 2). 5 more days and I get my TV back!
krinndnz
Oct. 31st, 2008 04:58 am (UTC)
bile
Holy crikey. Goldfarb is at the center of the "reason somebody needs to invent some sort of long-range slapping device" zone on Sjöberg's graph. I actually think you'd get that joke without the link, but I couldn't find that specific URL on Google when I went to make sure that I was getting it right, and I think that creating that link makes the correct search results more likely. I ramble like that to distract myself from trying to hit my monitor again. I've halfway stopped following politics because of how outrageously easy it's gotten to predict: conservatives will be breathtakingly stupid and generally evil, the Democratic party will make some nice noises and then cave to the conservatives, and the closest thing to good guys will be found rather to the left of those two groups. Maybe we can get the tradition of ostracism back - the list of candidates who need to be ejected from the public discourse entirely is long. I wish "poisoning people's ability to actually think" wasn't such a lucrative career path.
krinndnz
Mar. 1st, 2009 08:53 pm (UTC)
VICTORY IS MINE
Four months later, this journal appears in the first page of Google results for the phrase "long-range slapping device." I'm going to take a moment to be smug.
koganbot
Oct. 31st, 2008 05:35 am (UTC)
McCarthyism
Thought he was trying to imply "Jeremiah Wright," but that might be all wrong. By the way - not that I know anything about it - don't assume that Khalidi, the guy Goldfarb did name, is an anti-Semite. Actually, given the source, it might be wise to assume the opposite. Also, not to be too technical or anything, but Palestinians ARE Semites.

Here's Joe Klein on the issue, and Ron Kampeas. Andrew Sullivan has other relevant links here.
koganbot
Oct. 31st, 2008 04:46 pm (UTC)
Re: McCarthyism
Though I just read someone making the good point that there's no question that "anti-Semitism" has come to mean "anti-Jewish" so why waste our time on an inessential pedantic point when one can make the essential point that, (1) Khalidi doesn't seem anti-Jewish to the people in the blogosphere who have actually paid attention to his views, people who know him, etc. (though of course I myself am not someone who's paid attention to the fellow's views), and (2) and anyway there would be nothing wrong - in fact, there'd be something quite right - in Obama's associating with and trading views with people with whom he has substantive disagreements. Only a staunch anti-intellectual would think otherwise.

Anyway, here's Daniel Larison giving more background on the Khalidi issue (and Joe The Plumber). (I don't know much about Larison; seems to be a conservative with libertarian leanings who is fundamentally appalled by the McCain campaign.)

From the comment thread: "Wait – this is about Khalidi's views on Israel? I thought McCain was publicizing the Khalidi-Obama connection to highlight Obama's troubling associations with smart people."
masterninja66
Oct. 31st, 2008 08:35 am (UTC)
That was... beautiful.
zulkey
Oct. 31st, 2008 02:21 pm (UTC)
that guy made me want to piss in his mouth
mcfnord
Oct. 31st, 2008 09:12 pm (UTC)
i'm dyin here
the smear laid bare
feisty_robot
Oct. 31st, 2008 09:20 pm (UTC)
My god. Is there some lab in the Nevada desert where they grow these pudgy post-frat douches? I run into duplicates of this abhuman homunculus about a dozen times a day in the city, yammering on a BlackBerry about his "trades" or "totally going out on Friday."
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