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Here's my top ten hip-hop and pop/rock albums of the year. These will be combined with the previously posted metal top ten and pared down to make my final TOP TEN ALBUMS OF THE YEAR, coming soon to a commercial venue near you.

THE 10 BEST HIP-HOP ALBUMS OF 2008
1. Li’l' Wayne, Tha Carter III (Cash Money)
2. Jean Grae, Jeanius (Blacksmith Music)
3. Santogold, Santogold (Downtown)
4. The Roots, Rising Down (Def Jam)
5. The Cool Kids, The Bake Sale (Chocolate Industries)
6. Q-Tip, The Renaissance (Universal/Motown)
7. J-Live,Then What Happened? (BBE)
8. GZA, Pro Tools (Babygrande)
9. Scarface, Emeritus (Rap-a-Lot)
10. Santogold & Diplo, Top Ranking (Mad Decent)

THE 10 BEST ROCK/POP ALBUMS OF 2008
1. Portishead, Third (Island)
2. Marnie Stern, This Is It and I Am It and You Are It and So Is That and He Is It and She Is It and It Is It and That Is That (Kill Rock Stars)
3. TV on the Radio, Dear Science (Interscope)
4. Sigur Rós, Með Suð í Eyrum við Spilum Endalaust (XL)
5. The Raveonettes, Lust Lust Lust (Vice)
6. The Hold Steady, Stay Positive (Vagrant)
7. The New Year, The New Year (Touch and Go)
8. Calexico, Carried to Dust (Quarterstick)
9. Delta Spirit, Ode to Sunshine (Junket Boy)
10. Fleet Foxes, Fleet Foxes (Sub Pop)

I welcome your complaints and bafflement.

Comments

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solipsiae
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:05 pm (UTC)
What do you think of Wale's Mixtape About Nothing?
ludickid
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:10 pm (UTC)
I like him okay, but that sounds terrible.
archaica
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:07 pm (UTC)
I'm glad to see your placement of Portishead, as I'd been debating buying the album.
ludickid
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:12 pm (UTC)
It's really a fantastic album -- even better than their first, I think.
archaica
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:13 pm (UTC)
Nice!
tx_cronopio
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
Thank you for reminding me how Old and Out Of It I am.
ludickid
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:12 pm (UTC)
You're welcome.
johnnylemonhead
Dec. 8th, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)
Ditto. But your endorsement of the Fleet Foxes, coupled with the fact that I heard their music for the first time ever earlier today and didn't immediately turn it off, means that I might give 'em another spin.
perich
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:23 pm (UTC)
and I don't even drink coffee
1. Li’l' Wayne

*spits out coffee*
hipsterdetritus
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:35 pm (UTC)
Re: and I don't even drink coffee
It's not a terrible album, but it is pretty uneven. Still, it's been a hella weird year for rap (Leonard's -- and probably my -- second-best hip hop record of the year was originally meant to be released in 2004), so I can live with it.
ludickid
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:39 pm (UTC)
Re: and I don't even drink coffee
Yeah, I feel like this was a year with no massive, obvious standout, and while Tha Carter III isn't a perfect record, it's ambitious as hell, its good songs are goddamn good, and it had a cultural impact leagues beyond what any other rapper had, so it gets the nod.
marlo
Dec. 8th, 2008 08:14 pm (UTC)
Re: and I don't even drink coffee
*does the same*

I was hoping it was ironic.
ludickid
Dec. 9th, 2008 12:55 am (UTC)
Re: and I don't even drink coffee
Why yalls gotta hate.
dreamweasel
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:25 pm (UTC)
I wasn't aware that Marnie Stern had composed an answer record to "I Am the Walrus".
hipsterdetritus
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:41 pm (UTC)
Aw, you up and did it now
I actually read somewhere that Santogold doesn't like getting pigeonholed as a hip hop artist, which does kinda make sense since the 2/3 of her (great) album that doesn't sound kinda like M.I.A. sounds kinda like Blondie.
hipsterdetritus
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:42 pm (UTC)
Re: Aw, you up and did it now
kinda kinda kinda

(anyways, I'd move her to pop and slot in Madlib's Dil Cosby Suite in her place, but it ain't my list, so)
ludickid
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:43 pm (UTC)
Re: Aw, you up and did it now
She can go screw. I don't see Diplo making beats for Debbie Harry.
shekb
Dec. 8th, 2008 05:55 pm (UTC)
I love that Q-Tip record. It might be my favorite of the year. Which I think means that me, Q-Tip and rap are all old and uncool as hell.

Still don't get TV on the Radio. They look like Dave Matthews Band and sound like Anthony Kiedis wandered into a Strokes recording session, and yes I have every idea how hacky and lazy that description sounds.
ludickid
Dec. 8th, 2008 06:30 pm (UTC)
I don't quite get where Anthony Keidis comes in, since they don't do that sub-Eddie Vedder "heeeeeyaaaaaaaAAAAAAH" thing and they don't constantly make reference to their big cocks.
shekb
Dec. 8th, 2008 06:33 pm (UTC)
I'm dissing what rapping there is.
ludickid
Dec. 9th, 2008 12:57 am (UTC)
Fair enough, but busting on TVOTR for the rapping is like busting on the Ramones for the keyboard playing.
_sydlexic_
Dec. 8th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
No White Van Music :/
Also Dil Cosby Suite and In Ghost Colours.
Santogold is pretty uneven with a few standout tracks and some phenomenal remixes (eg XXXchange's take on "L.E.S. Artistes").
I listen to The Bake Sale surprisingly often for an album I initially dismissed as being mostly one song for 10 tracks.

Despite its hipster trappings, I enjoy Crystal Castles, but I don't think I'd put it above anything on that list.
ludickid
Dec. 8th, 2008 06:28 pm (UTC)
White Van Music is in my top 20, but didn't quite crack the top 10. I think I may have reached my saturation point with J. Dilla. And I haven't heard In Ghost Colours.
deadflowers
Dec. 8th, 2008 06:26 pm (UTC)
madvillainy 2 doesn't count?
what about stephen malkmus' real emotional trash?

i'm unfamiliar with most of your lists, so i'll download them and adjust your Total Goodness Points accordingly.
ludickid
Dec. 8th, 2008 06:32 pm (UTC)
As huge a fan of Pavement as I am, I've never been very impressed with Malkmus' solo stuff. It sounds like cleaned-up Pave with all the interesting musical elements taken away.
ortho_bob
Dec. 8th, 2008 07:22 pm (UTC)
These lists are not nearly obscure enough. For real cred you need to include at least one release that doesn't actually come out until next year, a mix CD made specifically for you by a fabulous Estonian DJ and a limited edition lathe-cut 8" single.

Glad you're still happy with the Portishead album - most people seemed to go mad over it for a week then filed it away at the back of the cupboard with Scot Walker's The Drift and their token Merzbow album.

ludickid
Dec. 9th, 2008 12:58 am (UTC)
To be fair, I only got the Portishead record two weeks ago. Maybe I'll be bored with it by Christmas.

But I do have about nine token Merzbow records, so maybe not.
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