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No, seriously, what IS it good for?

So, we're going to war with Iran now. I wish I could say that I wasn't incredibly depressed by this news, but...I mean, I've hated a lot of presidents before, but I've never really seen one that I thought was going to be the ruination of the country before. Not that I think we're all going to die, or that we'll become an enslaved unit of the global Islamofascist conspiracy, or anything -- just that I think the amount of shit heaped on America by Bush and his cronies and supporters is going to do so much long-term damage (diplomatically, economically, militarily, culturally, and politically) that it's going to be the end of America as a global power. We're going to become France or Germany, not that this is necessarily a bad thing. But at least those are both liberal countries, and we don't seem to be able to shake the habit of electing dogshit conservatives. So maybe we'll be more like Italy, only instead of the Mafia we'll have Halliburton.

I'd mention how far back in history you have to go before finding another example of a leader ordering the invasion of three different countries who didn't attack him, but apparently, there is some sort of internet rule against doing so. Anyway, I hope you all enjoy Iran; I was going to say it should be like Cambodia to Iraq's Vietnam, but really, Iraq is already kind of Cambodia to Afghanistan's Vietnam, so maybe Iran will be like some kind of crazy super-Cambodia, and Bush is our Nixon, and I'm, I dunno, Travis Bickle of the Future or something.


Sep. 24th, 2007 02:18 pm (UTC)
How's about this nutty Israel bombing Syria thing with N. Korea possibly being involved that everyone seems to be rather mum about?

It's just odd and seems to be something that'd be mentioned quite a bit about the interweb.
Sep. 24th, 2007 03:01 pm (UTC)
Well, it's all over the Sunday Times, and the European press is covering it heavily. My guess is that they're saving it for a Major Announcement to make it seem like it's all of a piece, smoking-gun style. I hear they're also going to talk about how the Persians assaulted our radio station at Gleiwitz.
Sep. 24th, 2007 02:22 pm (UTC)
We're at war with Iran? Why didn't I get the memo?
Sep. 24th, 2007 03:01 pm (UTC)
Aren't you watching the news, man? Doesn't it have, well, a somewhat familiar feel to it of late?
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Sep. 24th, 2007 02:32 pm (UTC)
What's neat about antagonizing Iran is that the strongest arm of our military force is currently committed to a region whose key supply line is easily within their capacity to bomb to dust. NEAT. BOOM!
Sep. 24th, 2007 02:38 pm (UTC)
How... Tonkinesque?
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Sep. 24th, 2007 02:43 pm (UTC)
q: how is Iraq like Cambodia? I admit, I don't know much about Pol Pot/ Cambodia/ Khmer Rouge (they were Cambodia, right?) but I thought war-wise we hit it and quit is and ignored atrocities in Cambodia, whereas we were deep in the muck in Vietnam. Not calling out your analogy, just looking for knowledge/ clarification.
Sep. 24th, 2007 03:05 pm (UTC)
Actually, you're right, it's not a good analogy. Perhaps if we'd followed MacArthur's advice in Korea and invaded China, and also at the same time we were fighting in Bangladesh, it would be comparable.

I guess what I'm saying is, this is so misbegotten and stupid that I actually can't find a proper historical analogy for it.
Sep. 24th, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC)
I can tell your metaphors for the morning are still warming up
Well, it's basically that the people in power genuinely do believe in that War Is The Health Of The State bullcrap.
Sep. 24th, 2007 03:06 pm (UTC)
My metaphors are in the toaster oven
Yeah, that's worked out really well, historically speaking.
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Sep. 24th, 2007 03:19 pm (UTC)
If we declare war now, we can seize Ahmadinejad since he's in New York and declare victory. Should be over in about 20 minutes, unless someone wakes Bush up and it all goes to pieces.
Sep. 24th, 2007 03:26 pm (UTC)
Life would be a lot less complicated if war was just a form of freeze tag.
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Sep. 24th, 2007 03:27 pm (UTC)
But we can salvage the Middle East road series with a win! We're due for one, and I like the arm on that Petraeus kid.
Sep. 24th, 2007 03:39 pm (UTC)
What's our magic number?
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Sep. 24th, 2007 03:32 pm (UTC)
Um, Leonard? I hate to doubt your accuracy as a newsman, but Google News, the NY TImes and MSNBC all seem to be mum about us declaring war on Iran.

Sep. 24th, 2007 03:41 pm (UTC)
Oh, man, you didn't just ask me for a LINK...

I am engaging in speculation, based on the swarm of news stories, to be found everywhere, about Iran, which are virtually identical in tone and content with those we saw during the lead-up to war with Iraq.
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Sep. 24th, 2007 11:40 pm (UTC)
Let's also invade Egypt! I understand they have many ancient cultural treasures that we can destroy along with lots of natural energy resources that private corporations can steal, plus a conservative Muslim population who already doesn't much care for the US of A.

Good times, great future!
Sep. 24th, 2007 11:43 pm (UTC)
Jordan is technically our ally. So we should attack THEM! They'll never suspect it!