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I've been getting called an anti-Semite a lot lately and goodness knows such a serious accusation must be true. But it seems to me that even if you didn't know anything else about the Israel-Palestine conflict -- even if you didn't know the political history of the region in the 20th century, didn't know the results of the various military conflicts, didn't know the details of the alliances and entanglements, didn't know anything about the combatants, didn't have a single idea about the way that Palestinians have to live under occupation -- even if you didn't know any of that stuff, you might get a pretty good idea about what's going on over there with only one tiny sliver of information: in the most recent conflict between the disputants, the ratio of casualties was 110:1 in favor of the state actor.

Or, I dunno, maybe not. People are flipping their shit over Barack Obama having even suggested that someone should do something to help the people of Palestine, so obviously I'm missing something really obvious about the whole conflict.

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tx_cronopio
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:24 pm (UTC)
I'm a Jew in favor of Palestinian rights, can you imagine the shit I get???

Stay the course, my friend.
ludickid
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:32 pm (UTC)
That's the problem with the whole conflict. Too much course-staying.
tx_cronopio
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:35 pm (UTC)
I was agreeing with you... ?
caprinus
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:41 pm (UTC)
He hates everything!

BTW *heart* cronopios y famas :)
tx_cronopio
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)
OMG you know what cronopios y famas are? *hearts you, runs off to check profile*
caprinus
Mar. 3rd, 2008 08:04 pm (UTC)
lol, well, to bolster my non-existent bio:

Pseudo-academic, librarian/cataloguer (=bureaucrat of the worst kind!), 30-something cat-lover. I also love Buffy. I also love Borges. I love beans and pickled beets (with horseradish ="ćwikła"). And, as evidenced by my interest list, I also love purposeless alliteration. So far we seem to be a pretty good match, I'm adding you back ;)
ludickid
Mar. 3rd, 2008 08:07 pm (UTC)
Oh, I know. I was just making a mordant comment on the cycle of violence. I do that sometimes.
oilyrags
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:54 pm (UTC)
I'm jewish enough for the ovens (but about as religious as say, Dawkins) and I also support Palestinian rights. But mostly, I support anything that will get these assholes to stop murdering each other. Every time I say that, though, I remember that a lot of the people getting murdered are assholes, too. I'm alright with the assholes getting murdered.
tx_cronopio
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:56 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but if all assholes are murdered, we'll all be dead. Your beloved comrade is someone else's asshole, and vice versa.
archaica
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:25 pm (UTC)
Considering that Republican presumptive nominee John McCain just feverishly sought, and obtained, the support of a man who says that Israel should be protected so that the Rapture can happen and all the Jews can be slaughtered, I think that expecting sense on any level regarding Israel and Palestine is a fool's errand.
ludickid
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:33 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I really love the fact that all the evangelical Christian support of Israel is predicated upon the notion that the end times can't happen without the destruction of the Jews. That must make Israelis feel pretty good about themselves.
archaica
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:34 pm (UTC)
On the one hand, I think they must think on some level, "who gives a shit why, they're sending us money and guns etc.", on the other hand, it's like the frog and the scorpion ... eventually, they're going to get stung when the needs of the crazies conflict with Israel's.
perich
Mar. 3rd, 2008 08:05 pm (UTC)
a bold new geopolitical theory
U.S. as Bugs Bunny, Jews as Daffy Duck, Israel as bulls-eye painted on ground, the Will of God as anvil.
calamityjon
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:26 pm (UTC)
I can't remember, is it red antisemite or blue antisemite that kills plant life? I know gold anitsemite removes Superman's powers (That's Ira Superman, Detroit based accountant ...)

Edited at 2008-03-03 07:27 pm (UTC)
ludickid
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:34 pm (UTC)
I know this great little shop down in the diamond district where you can get jewel antisemite at wholesale.
archaica
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:35 pm (UTC)
Jon, that cracked me up. Well done.
caprinus
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:55 pm (UTC)
I wonder what the cumulative ratio has been since 1948?

And, lest we forget, the relative demographics are about equivalent, about 5 mil Israeli Jews to about 6 mil Palestinians (incl. Jordan).

...but the whole Arab League is close to 400 mil. Som you see, if they keep it up at this rate Jews can kill all the Arabs before dying out themselves! Clever!
roninspoon
Mar. 3rd, 2008 07:58 pm (UTC)
What you clearly don't understand, because I suspect you are a heathen or pagan or otherwise Not Godly, is that that Israel is the home state of the Noble Jew. They are only living there because the bible told them they could 4000 years ago, and by god they killed everyone then too.

Those Noble Jews, who we frequently hate for killing baby Jesus, are protecting the holy sites we never visit and don't really care about from the invading hordes of vicious and dirty Aye Rubs.

It's all about the bible really. We just do what it says. Sorta.
roninspoon
Mar. 3rd, 2008 08:03 pm (UTC)
And some part of me wonders, frequently, at what point in our recent history being anti-Israel made you anti-Jew. I realize that Israel is a Jewish nation, but condemnation of one has not always been equal with condemnation of the other.

It's kinda like claiming you disapprove of England's national policies that you hate Anglicans.
(Anonymous)
Mar. 3rd, 2008 08:29 pm (UTC)
110:1 in favor of the state actor.
This is dangerous thinking. The ratio in Iraq is somewhere around 250:1 -- and nobody seems to care enough about the people of Afghanistan to provide even a rough estimate of casualties there.
thehornedgod
Mar. 3rd, 2008 11:22 pm (UTC)
Obama suggested that? Cool. I saw him insisting what a staunch friend of Israel he was in a debate with Hilary.
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