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manningkrull
Sep. 24th, 2008 01:22 pm (UTC)
This makes me want to cry. Incidentally, you know, that chart about which countries believe in evolution is just about the main reason I live in France.
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 01:57 pm (UTC)
Man, I know. It's just really more sad than anything.
gillen
Sep. 24th, 2008 01:26 pm (UTC)
Someone needs to take us over and put us all in re-education camps. If not for our own good then for that of the rest of mankind.
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 01:58 pm (UTC)
Fuck re-education, these people just need to be educated the FIRST time.
nebris
Sep. 24th, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC)
I may have created my own hallucination
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 02:42 pm (UTC)
Re: I may have created my own hallucination
Right on, man.
zulkey
Sep. 24th, 2008 02:40 pm (UTC)
my dad prays to his guardian angel every night to wake him up at a certain time and he swears it works--I think you should try it and then when it does work you'll be the one with all the angel shit all over your house.
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 02:42 pm (UTC)
1. Wouldn't it be easier to just buy an alarm clock?

2. I've already got a bunch of angel shit all over my house. I try to train them to use the box, but they won't fucking listen.
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rjwhite
Sep. 24th, 2008 02:58 pm (UTC)
At first, I thought this was going to be about the NPR poll that showed the candidates as being neck and neck now, with the accompanying interview with this former Hillary supporter who says he'll vote Obama now, because he "has no choice."

He also indicated that others in his rural SE Pennsylvania area were going to go Democratic until the Palin pick won them over because of hunting.

HUNTING IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT GOVERNMENTAL THING TO THEM. THAT IS THEIR SINGLE ISSUE.

Man- McCain's gonna win, isn't he?
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 03:00 pm (UTC)
This just now dawned on you?

I love the hunting thing, because, I mean -- doing what Palin does, sniping wolves from a helicopter, has to be the least sportmanlike thing imaginable. What, are the fucking wolves going to learn to fly?
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bassman42
Sep. 24th, 2008 03:26 pm (UTC)
People look at serendipitous fortune and think it could not be random..."hey, I shoulda died in that situation but came through unscathed...must be a guardian angel watchin' over me!" They're not crazy per se, just insufferably stupid.
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 04:49 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure if I feel better or worse, swapping "crazy" for "stupid".
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dorothy_parka
Sep. 24th, 2008 03:45 pm (UTC)
DOES THE POOKA COUNT? I have a guardian trickster. it's really annoying.
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 04:49 pm (UTC)
Sure.
drownedinink
Sep. 24th, 2008 04:35 pm (UTC)
I was going to make an ostensibly witty remark, but then I realized quite a few people, particularly those who share the Christopher Hitchens/Richard Dawkins POV, would say I'm insane for being convinced I've seen "ghosts", so we're at a stalemate, I guess.

ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 04:50 pm (UTC)
Don't let Chris Hitchens get in the way of your making an ostensibly witty remark, man.
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roseyv
Sep. 24th, 2008 04:42 pm (UTC)
Okay. I don’t totally disagree with you here but:

I know a lot of people — and I’m one of them — who have had experiences that have made us go “whoa. That was … a bit of luck, right there.” A sudden and inexplicable impulse to cross the street right before a car plows up onto the sidewalk where you were walking. An uncharacteristic decision to sleep late even though you have a big morning meeting scheduled, on the day the commuter train derails or the ferry sinks. A sudden feeling of dread that makes you get out of the elevator that crashes. On the one hand, of course those things are “just coincidences,” but on the other hand, that doesn’t really explain anything because all “coincidence” means is that two things happen at roughly the same time. It doesn’t explain why they do, and frankly, at least some of the time, it seems a little willfully obtuse to say that there never is and simply cannot ever possibly be any connection between those two events.

Now, does that mean it’s magical fairies whispering in your ear? Of course not. It’s much more likely that we as human beings have tiny, vestigial stumps where our animal instincts used to be, that may let us sense danger in time to avoid it (or wake up without an alarm clock — which by the way, is something they teach you in like, Day One of Silva training). We call that stump “intuition” or “a hunch” or “sixth sense,” or God help us, our “guardian angel,” but whatever it is and wherever it’s coming from, I really believe that sometimes we really do sort of know things before we know them, and that allows us to get ourselves out of harm’s way (it was my guardian angel talking to me!) or even to put someone else out of harm’s way, thus becoming their “guardian angel.”

Yes, agreed, it’s kind of a silly, foofery, childish way of describing the phenomenon, but silly and childlike are not necessarily the same as “insane.” I mean, I don’t know how my lymphatic system works either, but if I describe it as being kind of like the pump that keeps the water in my fish tank clean, that’s not insane. It’s just kind of an awkward, dopey way of explaining something I don’t really understand. And it for sure doesn’t mean that lymphatic systems don’t exist.

So, I don’t like that so many people feel the need to take something that is already pretty remarkable all on its own and assign some ooky-wooky mystical significance to it (“isn’t it enough to see a beautiful garden without having to believe there are fairies at the bottom of it?”). But I don’t necessarily think it makes them crazy. Just a little foolish and intellectually incurious, that’s all.
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 06:19 pm (UTC)
Well, see, though:

On the one hand, of course those things are “just coincidences,” but on the other hand, that doesn’t really explain anything because all “coincidence” means is that two things happen at roughly the same time.

Exactly. That's what a coincidence is. It doesn't explain anything, because there is nothing to be explained.

It doesn’t explain why they do

Again, there is no 'thing', so there is not 'why' to be explained regarding that 'thing'.

it seems a little willfully obtuse to say that there never is and simply cannot ever possibly be any connection between those two events.

That's not what coincidence means at all. Saying "this was a coincidence" does not mean you are saying "there can never be any connection between two seemingly unconnected events"; it means you are saying that in this instance, no evidence can be found that such a connection exists.

It’s much more likely that we as human beings have tiny, vestigial stumps where our animal instincts used to be, that may let us sense danger in time to avoid it

Yeah but. First, in the classic "I had a dream that my plane crashed so I didn't get on it and it crashed"/"I had an ooky feeling that I might get hit by a car so I didn't go to lunch and my friend got hit by a car" scenario, if that really WAS some sort of vestigal animal sense, wouldn't everyone have it? Why didn't the same premonition come to all the other people who DID get on the plane, or the guy who DID step in front of the car? And, for that matter, what about the times you have that ooky feeling and then nothing happens? You tend only to remember the few but scary times that the psychic vibe DOES pay off, and not the innumerable times it DOESN'T. Hence: coincidence. Your real senses, like sight and hearing, don't work like that.

(or wake up without an alarm clock — which by the way, is something they teach you in like, Day One of Silva training)

The whaaaa?

I don’t know how my lymphatic system works either

But a doctor does. A doctor does not know how your psychic alarm clock/danger sense works, possibly because it doesn't.
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oilyrags
Sep. 24th, 2008 05:07 pm (UTC)
I believe that not only do I have an angel protecting me, I have another that looks just like me only with a white gown, halo and harp perched next to my left ear telling me to do good and a devil who looks like me on my right shoulder telling me to do evil.

And when I hit my head, little birds fly around it.
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
But does a big mountainous lump immediately rise up with a tiny little ring of your hair around it?
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thehighhat
Sep. 24th, 2008 05:30 pm (UTC)
Now that I know there's guardian angels watching over me, I'm going to start drunk-dialing on my cell phone while watching DVDs on the in-dash system of my Hummer. I can see myself telling the kids not to worry about the guy I just ran down because obviously our guardian angels could kick his guardian angel's ass. It's win-win for everyone. Except the people I kill, but they will have had it coming, the godless liberals.
ludickid
Sep. 24th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
We should just have a big guardian angel death match.
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bisonfish
Sep. 24th, 2008 09:38 pm (UTC)
Is that the same Guardian Angels what used to ride around on the subway with those hats on? I believe in them, but I haven't got one of my own.
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